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== Comparison of services used by UUs ==
  
== Content Management Systems ==
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=== [http://www.3ix.org/ 3ix] ===
  
A Content Management System (CMS) is a system used to organize and facilitate  creation and maintenance of documents and other content (in this case for a web site).  They are designed to allow many people to directly contribute to the process.  Contributers sign on to authenticate and their activities are both assisted and restricted by the system.  To manage this, a CMS isolates the actions and effects of content creation and maintenance from other elements (layouts, styles, menus, etc.). 
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'''Operating System''' - Linux
Both Wiki's such as this and blogging sites use Content Management Systems.<br />
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A more comprehensive description and additional details can be found at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system Wikipedia].
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'''Advantages of a CMS website:'''
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'''Features''' - cPanel with Fantastico and a long list of Open Source programs
* content can be added and maintained without "webmaster" skills
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* many people can contribute or collaborate using just their web browser
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* limits on what contributors can and can't do can be precisely defined
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* site layout, style and menus are unaffected during content editing work
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* content is unaffected during layout, style and menu modifications
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* standards and changes for layout, style and menus are applied universally
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* site mapping, indexing, site search and menu generation is automatic
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* web feed (RSS) syndication of content is usually automatic
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* media (images, audio, video, etc) presentation and management is easier to implement
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* member only features are easier to implement
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* member participation features are easier to implement
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* better for sites with many frequent changes, community and media features
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'''Disadvantages of a CMS website:'''
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'''Cost''' - 4 packages range from $12/yr. to $88/yr. ($73 additional for SSL & dedicated IP using their top 2 packages with Shell Access)
* can be more work to set up for a simple site
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* fine tuning the look of individual pages and elements is difficult and limited
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* CMS systems have their own menus and logic which users must understand
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* one or more people must act to administrator the site and any other users
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* requires specific software to be present or added to the web server
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* your site will depend on the continuing availability and suitability of that specific software
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* CMS software will require occasional security maintenance and updating
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* usually requires some setup and configuration of a database on the web server
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* places greater processing demands on the web server
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* backup and recovery is more complicated when a database is involved
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* customization requires more specialized and less common skills
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* poor for relatively static sites with few changes and a single maintainer
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'''Explore the CMS options at:'''
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'''Reviews'''
* The website [http://www.cmsmatrix.org CMS Matrix] allows you to compare features on approximately 100 different CMS solutions. The "Search the Matrix" feature allows you to filter the list according to the features that you need for your site.
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*From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I've used it for 1 1/2 yrs. with several sites and few problems, though it doesn't have a toll free phone number for tech support & sometimes the LiveChat will put in a ticket for tech support via email, I usually get a satisfactory answer to questions within 12 hrs. I wouldn't recommend it if you need faster tech support. I notice that some accounts (on different 3ix computers) have more updated software than others. They also don't have automated bill paying using saved credit card information - they email their annual renewal bill, but they don't take down sites that are late and there's no late fee (up to 10 days or something like that). I see there's a dedicated hate group to them that primarily criticizes their "unlimited bandwidth" - I don't see how any server can truly offer bandwidth that is "unlimited" or space either, though many claim to. The cost per service is very good for those who would like to save money.
* The website [http://www.opensourcecms.com Open Source CMS Systems] allows you to demo 40-50 LAMP-based  Portals(CMS) and review the comments left by other visitors. ("LAMP" is an acronym for 'Linux-Apache-MySql-PHP' software.)
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'''---Listed below are details for some CMS packages that churches use to build and maintain websites.'''<br /><br/>
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'''Examples'''
 
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*[http://www.jpdwr.org/ JPD Women & Religion] uses the Excite plan ($12/yr.)
===[http://plone.org  Plone®]===
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*[http://www.uuallies.com/drupal UU Allies for Racial Equity] uses the Expert hosting plan (and pays a small amount extra for SSL and dedicated IP - for $128/yr.)
 
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*[http://www.baltwashuus.org/ Baltimore Washington Unitarian Universalists] and [http://www.philwiluus.org/ Philadelphia Wilmington Unitarian Universalists] share the same service in different directories using the Extra Hosing Plan ($33/yr.)
'''License:''' FREE: ([http://www.gnu.org/licenses/ GNU General Public License])
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'''Notes:''' Plone is a ready-to-run content management system that is built on the powerful and free [http://zope.org Zope®] application server. Plone provides a system for managing web content that is suitable for project groups, communities, web sites, extranets and intranets. Zope is a full web application environment using its own transactional object database and programmed in the full featured, object oriented, [http://python.org Python] scripting language.  The project was started in the year 1999.
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'''Advantages:''' It is easy to create events, news items, new documents, photos, and other files. It uses both HTML and an easy to use Structured Text for those who are unfamiliar with website design.  It has many add-on products that extend features available.  It has a very flexible security/permissions structure which allows people and groups with different roles to have control over different aspects and different parts of the site.  Plone can manage custom content types.  Plone delivers excellent compliance with [http://www.w3.org/ W3C] web ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ XHTML] strict and [http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ CSS]) and accessibility standards ([http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ WCAG]and [http://www.section508.gov/ Section 508]).  It can be set up to run on many different types of web servers (Linux, Windows, Mac, BSD etc.)  A large developer community, and commercial support is available. 
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'''Disadvantages:'''  Plone will generally require a specialized web host or virtual web server due to its use of [http://zope.org Zope] rather than Apache, PHP and MySQL.  It is resource-hungry on the server.  It requires over 75 MB RAM dedicated to your site which tends to cost from $15 to $40/month.  It will require much more learning by the webmaster about how to back up the custom database, how to combine with Apache for speed and web access logs, etc.  For more insights, see http://plone.org/documentation/faq/is-plone-for-me
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'''Examples:'''
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*[http://www.firstunitarianportland.org/ First Unitarian Church of Portland]
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*[http://www.nwuuf.org/ Northwoods Unitarian Universalist Fellowship]
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*[http://www.spindletopuu.org/ Spindletop Unitarian Church]
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*[http://www.uufws.net/ Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Winston-Salem]
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To try it out, create your own free site at http://www.objectis.org/ or create your own account at a  Plone-based community site like  http://plone.org/  For more flexible production hosting, you might look at http://interlix.com, or http://quintagroup.com
 
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===[http://drupal.org Drupal]===
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=== [http://www.bluehost.com/ Blue Host] ===
  
'''License:''' FREE  ([http://www.gnu.org/licenses/ GNU General Public License])
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'''Operating System''' - Linux
  
'''Notes:''' Similar to  Plone® but implemented using more standard [http://www.php.net/ PHP] and [http://www.mysql.com/ MySQL] resources.  Originally developed for 'community' participation web sites where everyone in the community is able to contribute content.  Today the program is being used for a wider range of uses, including online press ([http://progressive.org/ The Progressive], [http://www.theonion.com The Onion]), academic sites, media libraries, and galleries.  It can be used both for sites with very limited access (just a few authors) or by a very expansive community of users and authors with different privileges.  The project was started in the year 2000.
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'''Features''' - cPanel with Fantastico and a long list of Open Source programs - 1 package only, includes Shell Access
  
'''Advantages:''' Easy to create news items, single author and multi author documents, audio & video posts (podcasts), galleries (image collections), etc. The base program is highly compliant with both general [http://www.w3.org/ W3C] web design standards ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ XHTML] strict and [http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ CSS]) and accessibility standards ([http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ WCAG]and [http://www.section508.gov/ Section 508 requirements]).  Many theme templates and lots of additional modules are freely available from the central Drupal community site.  Common modules include kits which can be use to create custom content types and views.  Content can be edited in WYSIWG mode or HTML using a choice of tunable editors.  Regulation of user roles and privileges is very adjustable.  Editing experience and viewing experience can be customized for different users.  Content categorization and use of categorization is both flexible and pervasive.  Technical support is available through an active user community on Drupal's community support site.  A dedicated Drupal commercial hosting service option is available ([http://bryght.com/ Bryght Community content hosting]).
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'''Cost''' - $6.95/mo. if you sign up for 2 yrs. up front ($166.80/2 yrs. = $83.40/yr.)
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Many of the contributed modules are not that reliable.  Keeping up with the rapidly advancing core updates (about one major version update a year) makes it easy to find your site is reliant on modules that are not getting updated. Administration is done through same interface as is used for general site viewing (rather than a purpose specific back end interface).  Strict enforcement of design and coding creates requirements that may pose difficulties for some trying to make customizations. Building a multi featured site requires the selection, installation, and maintenance of many third party modules.
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'''Reviews'''
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*From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I have log-in capability on a site that uses it, but I haven't dealt with them directly. I see a lot of people think they're great, but I compared software versions and they're not up-to-date on everything. I believe it's their customer service that gets them top ratings, which includes 24X7 toll free phone support. I have also read some reviews from unsatisfied customers, though.
  
'''Features:'''
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'''Examples'''
* Number of user logins: at least one, but an unlimited number may be created
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*[http://www.jpduua.org/ Joseph Priestley District]
* Registration: May be set to "anyone may register", "anyone may register, but must be approved by admin", or "no one may register".  Various modules available to extend these options.
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* Separate file/page logins: no, everything is handled via a single login interface
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* Approx setup time: First time user, about 1/2 - 1 day.  Experienced user, about 15 - 30 minutes.
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* Custom scripts allowed: Yes; may create "modules" to extend system-wide functionality, or may inject PHP directly into a page
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* Custom templates allowed: Yes; may create a custom "theme"
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* Number of templates available: A very large number.  Many are listed on the [http://drupal.org/project/Themes Drupal themes page], and most of those are free.
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'''Major benefits:'''
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* Extremely customizable
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* Very large community - if you want to do something with Drupal, someone else has probably already done it
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* Many modules available for extending the core system
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* Extremely lightweight; does not require much server space or bandwidth, and is compatible with a wide variety of browsers
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'''Major drawbacks:'''
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* Requires some time and effort to learn
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* Too many modules - it can be difficult to find, assemble and maintain the modules you need
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'''Demo:'''
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[http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=132 OpenSourceCMS.com Demo site]
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To login as the admin, add a new page, and edit that page:
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1. Go to http://demo.opensourcecms.com/drupal/?q=user
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2. Login with the administrative password (username admin, password demo)
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3. Go to http://demo.opensourcecms.com/drupal/node/add/page
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4. Type in the page title, and some body text
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5. If you want, feel free to play with the various options which appear when you click "Comment settings", "Authoring information", and "Publishing options"; you can also change these later, by editing the page.
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6. Click Submit
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7. You should see the new page, with a button to edit it, if you want.
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8. To see the page as it would appear to a non-administrative user, copy the URL for the page somewhere convenient, go to http://demo.opensourcecms.com/drupal/logout , and then go back to the page URL.
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Note: OpenSourceCMS.com occasionally wipes its demos clean - do not save precious work there!
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'''Examples:'''  
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* [http://www.auuf.net/ Auburn Unitarian Universalist Fellowship]
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* [http://www.firstparishcambridge.org/ First Parish Cambridge]
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* [http://www.uumilwaukee.org/ First Unitarian Society of Milwaukee]
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* [http://follen.org/ Follen Church Society]
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* [http://rvuuf.org/ Rogue Valley Unitarian Universalist Fellowship]
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* [http://www.uduuf.org/ Upper Delaware Unitarian Fellowship]
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* [http://www.lifenowradio.org/ Life Now Radio... UU + Drupal, but a podcast...not a church]
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* If you google "church drupal" you can also find quite a few churches of other denominations using it. -An example using a number of good design principles can be seen at the [http://bethlehem-church.org/ Bethlehem Lutheran Church].  A collected listing of [http://groups.drupal.org/node/2700/ Church Websites running Drupal] has been collected in the Churches group at groups.drupal.org.
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===[http://joomla.org/ Mambo/Joomla]===
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=== [http://dreamhost.com/ DreamHost] ===
  
'''License:''' FREE  (both Mambo and Joomla use the [http://www.gnu.org/licenses/ GNU General Public License])
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'''Operating System''' - Linux (Debian "Sarge" 3.1r4)
  
'''Notes:''' Probably the most popular CMS. Listed together: Mambo and Joomla share a common design heritage. In mid-2005 the Miro corporation set up a "Mambo Foundation" in an attempt to exert more control via their ownership of the trademark.  This was strongly resisted by the Mambo developer community, which left en-masse and are continuing their development using the name "Joomla".  As these two programs continue development they are likely to become much more distinct and less able to share. Several web hosting services support installation through automated installation scripts or "one-button installs". It uses the same PHP and MySQL components as most other CMS's listed here. The project was started in the year 2000.
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'''[http://dreamhost.com/hosting.html Features]''' - Web hosting (Apache with PHP, Perl, Ruby, CGI, SSI, FastCGI, etc.). Comprehensive array of pre-installed or easily-installed services, including WordPress, Gallery, Joomla, phpBB, MediaWiki, Jabber, CVS, Subversion, WebDAV, streaming audio & video, and WebCalendar. Secure POP / IMAP / SMTP email service with SquirrelMail webmail. FTP. Procmail. Secure shell (SSH). Databases (MySQL). Spam filtering. Snapshot backups. Great control panel. Site statistics. File Storage. Custom DNS. WHOIS privacy. Unique IP and SSL available.
  
'''Advantages:''' Administration is done through a separate "back end" interface to avoid limitations of the "front end" interface used during normal site viewing and navigation.  Administration interface has an graphic icon driven interface that makes use less intimidating for some.  Theme templates and module extensions are easily loaded remotely since the interface accepts compressed modules remotely, transfers them, and unpacks on the server before loading them for use.  Content can be edited in WYSIWG mode or HTML using the included editor.  The popularity of the system has resulted in good availability of themes, extensions and experienced developers. Supports blogs, web feeds, multimedia, calendars, galleries, and podcasting through options and extensions.  Administration interface and loose enforcement of constraints makes modification of theme templates easier than some other CMS.
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'''Resources''' - Basic account gets 500GB + 5TB monthly bandwidth, both of which increase every week. Unlimited databases, email accounts, shell users, hosted domains and subdomains.
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Most new work seems to be taking the Joomla fork.  User reviews of the fall 2006 update to Mambo show comparatively high levels of user dissatisfaction.  The current Joomla 1.0 release seems stable, but is in need of revision to achieve compliance with [http://www.w3.org/ W3C] web design standards ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ XHTML] strict and [http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ CSS]) and accessibility standards ([http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ WCAG]and [http://www.section508.gov/ Section 508 requirements]).  The 1.0 version still uses tables extensively for formatting non-table content.  Improvements in these areas is a major objective of the 1.5 release of Joomla.  The version 1.5 update will provide a major redesign and is progressing. (Release candidates 1, 2 and 3 became available on 7-24, 9-1 and 10-6 of 2007.  The developers are anticipating a final release later this year.)  Due to the large amount of base design and extensions built outside of standards, it is not clear how readily or thoroughly the design improvements will be achieved.  In Joomla 1.0, the administration interface has been extended such that structure isn't always clear and some functions lack the clarity typical of the other sections.
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'''Cost''' - $11/month + $50 startup fee. Monthly cost and startup fees decline with increasing prepaid term. Promo Codes readily available to reduce cost further.
  
'''Examples:'''<br />
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''Mambo:''
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* [http://www.uuaa.org First Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Ann Arbor]
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* [http://www.ucsummit.org The Unitarian Church in Summit (New Jersey)]
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* [http://uucyf.org/ The Church of the Younger Fellowship]
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* [http://cms.plymouthuu.org/ First Parish Church in Plymouth]
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* [http://www.firstparish.org/ First Parish in Concord]
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* [http://rochesteruniversalist.org/ First Universalist Church of Rochester]
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* [http://www.jruuc.org/ James Reeb Unitarian Universalist Congregation]
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* [http://www.mmuus.org/ May Memorial Unitarian Universalist Society]
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* [http://swuucyruu.org/ Southwest District Young Religious Unitarian Universalists]
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* [http://www.tjuc.org/ Thomas Jefferson Unitarian Church]
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* [http://www.uucj.com/ Universalist Unitarian Church of Joliet]
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* [http://www.uuventura.org/ Unitarian Universalist Church of Ventura]
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* [http://www.uu-uno.org/ Unitarian Universalist United Nations Office]
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*From Stonewall Ballard 2007/11/09 - First Parish in Concord has used DreamHost since June of 2005. I chose it because it was cheap and offered enough space for our photo gallery. Web and database services tends to be slow. Outages are not uncommon. Outgoing email is frequently blacklisted by Comcast, Verizon, and AOL. OTOH, it's very easy to use and very flexible. For example, I installed my own copy of SpamAssassin. It has a large set of services. Support is variable, but usually ok. They're very open about problems in their blog and forums. Do not choose DreamHost if you want high reliability. Go with Pair for that.
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===[http://contentor.net Contentor]===
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'''License:''' FREE ([http://www.gnu.org/licenses/ GNU General Public License])
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'''Advantages:''' Contentor was designed for small to medium-sized web sites, typical of sites for/by small non-profit corporations or individuals.  It was developed by a fellow UU, Earl Daniels.
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'''Examples'''
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Unclear how much usage or support there is.
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*[http://www.firstparish.org/ www.firstparish.org]
  
'''Examples:'''
 
*[http://www.uuism.net UUism.net]
 
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===[http://info.soholaunch.com/ Soholaunch]===
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=== [http://simple.be/hosting/ Simple.be] ===
  
'''License:''' Proprietary.  Basic version is free of cost. "For 15 days, all of the full-version features will be turned on for you. After your full-version trial expires you can keep using all of the ProBase features forever for free, or you can purchase a full-version license and pick up where you left off with the advanced features."
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'''Operating System''' - Windows, Linux
  
""Installing:"" - Linux servers often offer one of these features that will install it with the click of a link or icon: Fantastico (cPanel), Installatron (cPanel, Plesk), 4psa (Plesk), CP Skins (cPanel), Helm
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'''Features''' - Web hosting (Apache, PHP, CGI, and Perl), Secure POP / IMAP / SMTP email service, Secure shell (SSH) & secure copy (SCP), Databases (MySQL & PostgreSQL), Anti-spam service, Snapshot backups, Debian GNU/Linux
  
'''Advantages:''' Relatively easy to use and to set up. A non-tech person can learn how to add information to the site using a web browser and username and password. There are limited templates with the program, but there are forums that give information about creating customized designs.
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'''Cost''' - 6 packages from $14/month (for 80 MB storage and 3 email aliases) up.
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Requires several steps for the editor to create a page - is not a wysiwyg tool. Does not allow for separate password protected folders for different editors of different areas of the site as might be needed for a large site. Might have limits that I'm not aware of as I've only used it for small sites. Experienced problems updating the software without having the content removed, but server had backup to restore it and forum gives instructions on how to correct the problem.
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*From PatRodgers 2007/11/08 - Brett Hamilton has hosted our www.mpuuc.org website for almost 4 years. He walked me through the WinSCP setup and quickly handles changes in the forwarding of our email aliases.  Readily available via email or phone.
  
'''Examples:'''
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'''Examples'''
[http://www.jpdwr.org/ Joseph Priestley District Women and Religion] - this site was set up by someone with moderate tech skills and instructions were created for volunteer site managers - uses a template that was provided plus their logo designed by a member artist
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*[http://www.mpuuc.org/ Mission Peak Unitarian Universalist Congregation]
[http://www.4stepscreativelearning.com/ 4 Steps Creative Learning Child Care Services] - this is not a UU site, but it demonstrates how a template can be edited for a new design - a real estate template was used, header photos were replaced, and colors were changed. The counter at the bottom is a free sitemeter - not a part of the Soholaunch program, but it shows that code can be added for other services.
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===[http://www.oneworldhosting.com/support/website_builder.html SiteXpress Website Builder]===
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=== [http://www.uuism.net/index.php UUism Networks] ===
  
'''License:''' Proprietary.  Free if you use a host service that offer the software (see link above).
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'''Operating System''' - Red Hat Linux Fedora Core 4
  
'''Advantages:''' Offers more flexible design options than some other CMSs - many design elements available, not just full templates. User-friendly instructions for people with good web experience. Customizing options available (uploading your own header images).
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'''Features''' - EnsimPro administrative panel - "comes with Web Site, Subdirectory Access (FTP), Shell Access (SSH) and Email Server Access (POP3)"
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Limited to servers that offer it. More steps needed to edit than some other CMSs.
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'''Cost''' - "$48 per year for 25 MB with free setup" (according to site 11/7/2007)
  
'''Examples:'''
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'''Reviews'''
[http://www.drchrisbell.com/ Dr. Chris Bell] - code for Sitemeter added as free service (not available with software)
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*From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I've used it for ~8 yrs. & it has improved over time. I've only used it for services that our UU host, Jim Hermann, has offered free. THANKS, JIM! He serves over 100 UU congregations and organizations.
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*From BruceC 2007/11/7 - I've used this service for many years.  Our main pages are still hosted on a local community based service for non-profit pages.  But they don't offer server programs so I have been migrating more and more to uuism.  First was our domain name, then email lists, then the forums and now we are rebuilding our site in Joomla.  (UUism doesn't currently offer Joomla via Ensim, but it was not difficult to install.) Ensim doesn't always keep all software up to the most current, but most of it is especially if there are security concerns.  Site availability has been much better than 99%.  Response to emailed questions is usually within a couple of hours.
  
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'''Examples'''
 
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*[http://www.rec-room.org/ REC-Room]
===[http://www.phpwebsitemanual.com/ phpWebSite]===
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*[http://www.uuism.net/uuwiki/ UU Wiki] - this site
 
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'''License:''' Free (GPL)
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'''Advantages:''' Allows separate password protected areas for different site editors. Has a lot of forum features built in.
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'''Disadvantages:''' Set up does not contain user-friendly instructions; instructions are found elsewhere. Design flexibility is limited.
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[http://www.uusj.org/ Unitarian Universalists for Social Justice]
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===[http://revoluution.com/products.php Revoluution Media CMS]===
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=== [http://www.vervehosting.com/ Verve Hosting] ===
  
'''License:''' Proprietary - by arrangement with "Revoluution Media"
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'''Operating System''' - Linux
  
'''Notes:''' "Revoluution Media" builds web sites and provides CMS site software for a number of Unitarian Universalist entities. The vendor website claims its own CMS is "fully integrated and easy-to-use" and that it "will allow anyone to update the page content of your site- without resorting to a slow or expensive webmaster". The coding technologies visible on example websites include XHTML, CSS, PHP, and Javascript.
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'''Features''' - cPanel, Fantastico (automatically installs Drupal, WordPress, Joomla, etc.), multiple MYSQL databases, multiple domains and subdomains, SSH, PHP 4 or 5, Awstats, Spam Assasin, FTP, Imap
  
'''Advantages:''' Vendor assistance and support. Vendor offers an integrated service package. The vendor has experience serving a number of other Unitarian Universalist communities.  System can be optimized for a small user base.
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'''Cost''' - as low as $5.95 a month
  
'''Disadvantages:''' Costs associated with vendor service. Dependencies associated with a single vendor solutions. System has a small user base to test system operation and to support addition and refinement of features.
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'''Reviews'''
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*From Chris Walton 11/9/2007 - I've hosted [http://www.philocrites.com/ Philocrites] and several other websites with Verve for four years. They provide extremely stable hosting and almost immediate customer support. Domain registration from $11.95 is slightly higher than from other services.  
  
'''Examples:'''  
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'''Examples'''
*[http://cmwdyan.org/ Central Midwest District Young Adult Network]
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*[http://www.philocrites.com/ Philocrites]
 
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*[http://www.jameslutheradams.org/ James Luther Adams Foundation]
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===[http://sourceforge.net/projects/tmakesite Thetaworld MakeSite]===
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'''License:''' a custom open source license.
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'''Notes:''' From the Project Page on SourceForge: Thetaworld MakeSite is an offline Content Management System for static pages based on PostgreSQL, Perl, Gedafe and web GUI. It supports Links Catalog similar to Yahoo, multi categories, pages, different publishing targets and online e-commerce shop..
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'''Advantages:''' Relatively simple and efficient in operation.
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'''Disadvantages:''' Unclear how much usage or support there is.  Limited in features with little apparent prospect for evolution.  No apparent maintenance since December 2005.  Uses/Requires some less common (but publicly licensed) web components.
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'''Examples:'''
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*[http://palouseuu.org/ Unitarian Universalist Church of the Palouse (Moscow, Idaho)]
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===[http://www.firstunitariansociety.org/templateproject/ UU Web Template project]===
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'''License:''' FREE - at least for UU organizations (the [http://www.firstunitariansociety.org/templateproject/license/license.txt license] says it is [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/  Creative Commons by-nc-sa] but also "Any [non-UU] use requires permission." so that isn't clear....)
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'''Notes:''' The term template may be a bit misleading.  These file sets create a scripted (PHP) interface, a choice of two visual themes and a standard set of church web pages.  It provides a user interface allowing authorized users to login to the site from any web browser.  Once logged in, the authorized user can create content, perform basic maintenance, and extend the page and menu content without any web editing tools. New as of May 2006; the specs for future versions are being considered to improve it.
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'''Advantages:''' The UU Web Templates are designed and prepared specifically for use by UU congregations needing to create a first web site and should allow a quick and low cost launch.  The UU Web Templates can also be used as an add-on or for use in re-design of a site.  The project is supported by fellow UUs so the community is limited, but shares a lot of common knowledge.  There is an email list to communicate with the other users.  The simplicity of the design allows the templates to function on both Linux/Unix and Windows web servers.  The templates do not require the complexity of a database setup and maintenance.
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*[http://www.allsoulsbraintree.org All Souls Unitarian Universalist Church of Braintree]
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*[http://www.athensuuc.org Unitarian Universalist Church of Athens and Sheshequin]
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*[http://www.cvuus.org Champlain Valley Unitarian Universalist Society]
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*[http://www.luuna.net LUUNA - Latino(a) Unitarian Universalist Networking Association]
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*[http://www.oaklandonuu.org Oaklandon Unitarian Universalist Church]
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*[http://www.rutlanduu.org Unitarian Universalist Church of Rutland]
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*[http://www.secondparish.org Second Parish - Unitarian Universalist]
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*[http://www.uuacg.org Unitarian Universalists of Coastal Georgia]
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*[http://www.uucookeville.org Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Cookeville]
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*[http://www.uucyakima.org Unitarian Universalist Church of Yakima]
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*[http://www.uufgc.org UU Fellowship of Greater Cumberland]
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*[http://www.uumuk.org/test The United Unitarian & Universalist Society of Mukwonago]
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*[http://www.uutryonnc.org Thermal Belt Unitarian Universalist Fellowship]
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'''Advantages:''' WordPress is relatively easy to setup and understand.  It is also a relatively mature and well maintained program.  This has resulted in it being both very stable and web and accessibility standard compliant.  The WordPress site provides extensive guidelines on how to improve and maintain accessibility.  An extremely large collection of theme templates and plug-ins is available in the public domain and from custom developers.  Themes are easily and quickly switched and customized from within the administrative interface.  Non-blog pages and menus are relatively easy to create.  The tabbed administrative interface opens on a dashboard which displays the system status and provides notices of upgrades from WordPress.  Content is created and edited using an interactive WYSIWYG editor that allows tabbing between a formated presentation and direct HTML editing.  The editor provides both auto-save backups during editing and spell checking.  Edits can be saved to draft, or private, or published for public viewing.  Its podcasting feed support exceeds those of other CMS offerings.  It is common for web hosting services to supply their customers with a "one-button" installation for the WordPress application. A dedicated commercial hosting service option is available from [http://wordpress.com/ WordPress.com].
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*[http://www.ucmh.org/ Unitarian Church of Marlborough and Hudson]
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Comparison of services used by UUs

3ix

Operating System - Linux

Features - cPanel with Fantastico and a long list of Open Source programs

Cost - 4 packages range from $12/yr. to $88/yr. ($73 additional for SSL & dedicated IP using their top 2 packages with Shell Access)

Reviews

  • From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I've used it for 1 1/2 yrs. with several sites and few problems, though it doesn't have a toll free phone number for tech support & sometimes the LiveChat will put in a ticket for tech support via email, I usually get a satisfactory answer to questions within 12 hrs. I wouldn't recommend it if you need faster tech support. I notice that some accounts (on different 3ix computers) have more updated software than others. They also don't have automated bill paying using saved credit card information - they email their annual renewal bill, but they don't take down sites that are late and there's no late fee (up to 10 days or something like that). I see there's a dedicated hate group to them that primarily criticizes their "unlimited bandwidth" - I don't see how any server can truly offer bandwidth that is "unlimited" or space either, though many claim to. The cost per service is very good for those who would like to save money.

Examples


Blue Host

Operating System - Linux

Features - cPanel with Fantastico and a long list of Open Source programs - 1 package only, includes Shell Access

Cost - $6.95/mo. if you sign up for 2 yrs. up front ($166.80/2 yrs. = $83.40/yr.)

Reviews

  • From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I have log-in capability on a site that uses it, but I haven't dealt with them directly. I see a lot of people think they're great, but I compared software versions and they're not up-to-date on everything. I believe it's their customer service that gets them top ratings, which includes 24X7 toll free phone support. I have also read some reviews from unsatisfied customers, though.

Examples


DreamHost

Operating System - Linux (Debian "Sarge" 3.1r4)

Features - Web hosting (Apache with PHP, Perl, Ruby, CGI, SSI, FastCGI, etc.). Comprehensive array of pre-installed or easily-installed services, including WordPress, Gallery, Joomla, phpBB, MediaWiki, Jabber, CVS, Subversion, WebDAV, streaming audio & video, and WebCalendar. Secure POP / IMAP / SMTP email service with SquirrelMail webmail. FTP. Procmail. Secure shell (SSH). Databases (MySQL). Spam filtering. Snapshot backups. Great control panel. Site statistics. File Storage. Custom DNS. WHOIS privacy. Unique IP and SSL available.

Resources - Basic account gets 500GB + 5TB monthly bandwidth, both of which increase every week. Unlimited databases, email accounts, shell users, hosted domains and subdomains.

Cost - $11/month + $50 startup fee. Monthly cost and startup fees decline with increasing prepaid term. Promo Codes readily available to reduce cost further.

Reviews

  • From Stonewall Ballard 2007/11/09 - First Parish in Concord has used DreamHost since June of 2005. I chose it because it was cheap and offered enough space for our photo gallery. Web and database services tends to be slow. Outages are not uncommon. Outgoing email is frequently blacklisted by Comcast, Verizon, and AOL. OTOH, it's very easy to use and very flexible. For example, I installed my own copy of SpamAssassin. It has a large set of services. Support is variable, but usually ok. They're very open about problems in their blog and forums. Do not choose DreamHost if you want high reliability. Go with Pair for that.

Examples



Simple.be

Operating System - Windows, Linux

Features - Web hosting (Apache, PHP, CGI, and Perl), Secure POP / IMAP / SMTP email service, Secure shell (SSH) & secure copy (SCP), Databases (MySQL & PostgreSQL), Anti-spam service, Snapshot backups, Debian GNU/Linux

Cost - 6 packages from $14/month (for 80 MB storage and 3 email aliases) up.

Reviews

  • From PatRodgers 2007/11/08 - Brett Hamilton has hosted our www.mpuuc.org website for almost 4 years. He walked me through the WinSCP setup and quickly handles changes in the forwarding of our email aliases. Readily available via email or phone.

Examples


UUism Networks

Operating System - Red Hat Linux Fedora Core 4

Features - EnsimPro administrative panel - "comes with Web Site, Subdirectory Access (FTP), Shell Access (SSH) and Email Server Access (POP3)"

Cost - "$48 per year for 25 MB with free setup" (according to site 11/7/2007)

Reviews

  • From JoyceD 11/7/2007 - I've used it for ~8 yrs. & it has improved over time. I've only used it for services that our UU host, Jim Hermann, has offered free. THANKS, JIM! He serves over 100 UU congregations and organizations.
  • From BruceC 2007/11/7 - I've used this service for many years. Our main pages are still hosted on a local community based service for non-profit pages. But they don't offer server programs so I have been migrating more and more to uuism. First was our domain name, then email lists, then the forums and now we are rebuilding our site in Joomla. (UUism doesn't currently offer Joomla via Ensim, but it was not difficult to install.) Ensim doesn't always keep all software up to the most current, but most of it is especially if there are security concerns. Site availability has been much better than 99%. Response to emailed questions is usually within a couple of hours.

Examples


Verve Hosting

Operating System - Linux

Features - cPanel, Fantastico (automatically installs Drupal, WordPress, Joomla, etc.), multiple MYSQL databases, multiple domains and subdomains, SSH, PHP 4 or 5, Awstats, Spam Assasin, FTP, Imap

Cost - as low as $5.95 a month

Reviews

  • From Chris Walton 11/9/2007 - I've hosted Philocrites and several other websites with Verve for four years. They provide extremely stable hosting and almost immediate customer support. Domain registration from $11.95 is slightly higher than from other services.

Examples